Post by Andy MorrisonPost by Fish SupperPost by Andy MorrisonPost by Fish SupperPost by Osohttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8308531.stm
Well done Rangers
Why "well done"?
Complete waste of tickets. If they wanted to show the nation's
gratitude to people who are undervalued, they should have given them to
cancer nurses or firemen - people who do a far more valuable and
worthwhile job.
You have a strange evaluation of what is a valuable & worthwhile job if
you don't include the Services who bravely defend our country's
interests at the very top.
You'll be able to explain how they defended our interests in Iraq and
Afgahnistan then?
Why? Don't you listen to the news?
I'll take that as a "I don't have a fucking clue what we're doing in
Afghanistan and not even I can possibly justify the invasion and occupation
of Iraq". I do listen to the 'news', by which I take it you mean the BBC
news, but only for its comedic value.
Post by Andy MorrisonDon't you believe the warnings of what will happen in this country if we
don't defeat the terrorists who have been harboured & supplied by Iraq &
in Afghanistan, where they had literally taken over to build training
camps which would send out religious maniacs to maim & kill as in New York
& London.
Utter nonsense. There is zero link between either country and what happened
on 9/11 or 7/7. The 9/11 crew were allegedly from Saudi Arabia and the 7/7
crew allegedly from Yorkshire.
This is pure bullshit and disinformation pumped out to try to justify
another imperialist adventure.
Post by Andy MorrisonPost by Fish SupperPost by Andy MorrisonSince time immemorial our troops have defended these shores to afford
you, firemen, nurses etc a peaceful environment to practice whatever
vocation & pastimes you/they choose for themselves.
Apart from WW2, give me one other instance where 'our troops' have
'defended these shores'. One.
Do you think our servicemen need to be literally fighting all the time?
Who do you think monitored the cold war for decades. Who do you think
monitors day & daily for threats against our country.
And these threats come from mud huts in the world's 3rd poorest country?
Post by Andy MorrisonMaybe you consider their efforts worthless but when it comes to the bit as
in Iraq & Afghanistan, whether you like it or not these guys are putting
their lives on the line for you & me.
Not for me, they ain't. I didn't ask them to go - in fact I asked them NOT
to go. They are putting their lives on the line for the oil companies and
other business interests. It was ever thus.
Post by Andy MorrisonPost by Fish SupperYou can't, because there has been no other instance and that's because we
are not a country that is under any threat. On the other hand, we ARE a
country that likes to run around the world invading other places - always
have been. It's what you call 'imperialism'.
Imperialism? What books are you reading?
Post by Fish SupperYou mean like Gandhi or MLK? Unfortunately, no. There are times when it
is necessary to fight.
Ahhhh! right. Ghandi who supported Britain in at least three seperate
conflicts.
more rubbish. Name these conflicts which were supported by 'Ghandi' and
define 'support'.
Post by Andy MorrisonI'm surprised that a State of Israel hater like yourself so admires MLK
who so rightly supported the creation of the Jewish State.
Who said I 'so admire' MLK? Unlike yourself, I don't see the world in
simplistic black and white terms and am able to take a much more nuanced
view of things. MLK did a lot of good, but he could also be foolish at
times. His support for Israel was one such piece of foolishness.
Post by Andy MorrisonPost by Fish SupperPost by Andy MorrisonWell done Rangers & the Rangers fans for the continued & welcome support
of our troops, God bless them & keep them safe.
Getting them the fuck out of Afgahnistan, where we have no business,
would be the best way of doing that.
I wish fervently that they could all come home safely tomorrow,
So you do want them to GTF out of Afghanistan? Excellent.