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Post by Moody Marco"Breen Gin (RFC 52 Titles)" <Champions-of-Scotland> wrote in
Post by Breen Gin (RFC 52 Titles)Post by smePost by ¯`·.žbizž.·Ž¯Post by JonbhoyPost by OsoPost by smePost by Breen Gin (RFC 52 Titles)Post by OsoNote the HUGE bodyswerve, including the cut reference the
Castlemilk traitor.
Ayep, that says it all about his mindset.
Have i just been wooshed?? Who's the Castlemilk traitor???
McGeady. He was asked to play for his country, the one that
brought
him up, educated him and gave him free health care and
refused
so he
could play for Ireland. What really galls is at the time
Scotland
had no fit strikers who were worth a damn and really needed
a goal
scorer. A double slap in the face.
FFS you make it sound like he went and joined the Taliban.Get a
fucking grip will you!McGeady has a right to play for who he
wants,its called free choice.Boyd has the choice to not play
for
his
country which he did yet we dont see a sickening statement
regarding
turning his back on the country that gave him free health
care etc
etc.
"Sickening"?? Aren't you just a precious wee daisy!
Its not sickening, its fact - He took advantage of the UKs NHS and
education system. He was asked to play for Scotland, was able to
commit to Scotland, *refused* to make that commitment... them's the
facts whichever way you want to paint them. I don't see how
Oso said
anything "sickening" though ...
Lmao. He took advantage? Sure, he said to his parents he wanted
to
play
for Ireland but felt the NHS and education system was better in
the
UK. I
can just see a teenager coming out with that one. Would either of
yourselves consider you are traitors? You are both educated and
trained
in Scotland, have possibly taken advantage of the NHS but now
are
looking
to take your 'talents' to New Zealand and Canada.
That would only be comparable if Scotland make them the same
offer
that
those respective countries can
Post by smePost by ¯`·.žbizž.·Ž¯Boyd's a wanker as well, if we end up qualifying for the WC and he
decides to come out of retirement, I'd tell him to get tae fuck.
Why ?
Post by smePost by ¯`·.žbizž.·Ž¯International football is about giving something back to your
country,
So when he wants to give something back you would tell him to get tae
fuck, strange.
Post by smePost by ¯`·.žbizž.·Ž¯its not about picking and choosing when you play just because
you
dont
happen to like some of the staff.
Actually it is. Its called free choice, many a person has chosen
not
to
work under certain management, football players are no different.
Post by smeI think the whole Boyd thing is taken out of context as well. I
have left
jobs because of the management. I would work for the
organisation
again
but not for the management. I was upset when Boyd 'retired' but
appreciate his reasons.
The bit I find strange is that Celtic fans, not all of them
though,
think
its ok for McGeady to say no to Scotland but its not ok for Boyd
to
do it.
In their eyes one is making a free choice the other is letting
his
country
down. Double standards lads, double standards. Both let their
country down
by saying no, simple as that.
No thats not the case,its about making a choice and standing by
it.McGEady
made his choice and has stuck by it,Boyd is acting like he can
choose
if and
when on HIS terms he plays for his nation.He is not tha manager
and made a
choice not to play for Scotland.If thats the case then he should
stand
by it
not just wait fr a Manager that might play him more.
I thought you were all for "free choice"?
Yep free choice which he had and standing by it,not free choice oh ill
change my mind now,
ahh, so you're *not* for free choice then?
Yeah "You can make a choice so long as you follow the conditions I
impose on that choice, and you may never choose to change to another
choice" ... not exactly liberty is it?
If you make a choice you should be responsible enough to stand by that
choice.
FFS jon, can't you see what you're saying? He chose one thing and you
don't think he should be able to change that or, in other words, make
another choice? He is standing by that choice by not playing for Burley.
When another manager takes over Boyd may choose to make himself available
for selection. What is so wrong with that?
Because he chose to turn his back on the national team.As they said last
night theres plenty of players who didnt get on with the national coach
but they stuck with it because its an Honour.Ok maybe free choice was
the wrong term,maybe more commitment.He is meant to play for
Scotland,not just Burley.Lets face it he wasnt good enough at the time
to get a run out so he threw the toys out of the pram thinking he was
bigger than he was.To bad,should not play for us again!And no he should
not be allowed the choice to come back under a new manager as its not
his choice to make!
We're only talking about Boyd because some people brought McGeady up as
having no commitment to his country and the whole 'honour' thing.
You cant be a dishonoured national disgrace for turning your back on your
country because of the reigeme in place, and yet claim "ah he's only
exercising freedom of choice" when a Celtic player TURNS HIS BACK ON HIS
COUNTRY BECAUSE OF THE REIGIME IN PLACE.
Different circumstances, but essentially both players did the same
thing - to back one to the hilt and hammer the other is purely done so
wearing green or blue tinted spectacles.
Not at all,one made it clear who he was going to play for and did so...and
stuck with it.The other made it clear he was playing for Scotland then
when he had to do as he was told by the manager threw his toys out the
pram and went off in a sulk to wait for the next manager.Totally different
things.
Sorry no matter how much you dress it up as wee McGeady doing the proper
thing and Boydy not, it aint happenin. It still reeks of green tinted specs
JB. Both turned their backs on Scotland. Thats factual, however, one has
stated that ist not actually Scotland he has turned his back on, its the
manager. In hindsight he probably knows it was the wrong thing to do and has
rectified that as best he can by saying he would play again if a different
manager picked him. McGeady on the other hand, cant change his mind and has
no other choice but to get on with it. Doubt if he thinks he made the wrong
choice though.
Post by JonbhoyPost by ¯`·.žbizž.·Ž¯Personally I think saying no to your country is a bit of a slap in the
face, and they both deserve a slap on the lug from every living person
who has ever paid the admission nprice to a Scotland game.
But they hardly commited the crimes of the century - I'd have either or
both in any future Scotland team.
I dont know how you can say that when pretty much from the start McGeady
said who he wanted to play for.
And Boyd has made it perfectly clear that he will play for Scotland, just
not while Burley is in charge.
Post by JonbhoyIf he started fucking about id expect him to get a shit load of abuse from
the ROI fans but from what i have heard he gets on and plays.
I wonder if that would change if he started to get left on the bench game
after game while the manager brought some second rate dud, that no one had
heard, of to fill his position.
Post by JonbhoyAndy Townsend never got shit from the english when he did the same.Thats
making a commitment,Boyd made a commitment then stuck his fingers up.
Boyd has still made a commitment to Scotland, just not under Burley.
Post by JonbhoyAs i said two different situations.Yes i am sad McGeady didnt choose
Scotland but thats the way it goes and he didnt fuck anyone around saying
he would then didnt.
Thats right, he just stuck two fingers up at Scotland and said i'm away to
play for a foreign team. Clear cut.
Post by JonbhoyAnd before you say its green specs,it isnt. I would say the exact same if
any Celtic player did it,
Do you think McGeady was out of order choosing a foreign team to play for
rather than his home country ?
Post by Jonbhoyin fact i remember posting a couple of seasons back i believe it was when a
couple of Celtic players suddenly had "Injuries" and were withdrawn and i
said it was out of order!
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