Rangers Owner

[Jonbhoy]

Just reading up on the BBC site about what WS has been saying about the club
and how the Bank is running the club etc and that he may leave in January
but is waiting until a new owner arrives to see what happens.I thought
though when DM left that a new guy had come in,wasnt that a new owner or was
that purely a club chairman without ownership?

[Usenet Nutter]

Post by Jonbhoy
Just reading up on the BBC site about what WS has been saying about the club
and how the Bank is running the club etc and that he may leave in January
but is waiting until a new owner arrives to see what happens.I thought
though when DM left that a new guy had come in,wasnt that a new owner or was
that purely a club chairman without ownership?

Wasn't Murray both Chairman and Owner but now he is just the Owner as
that other guy became Chairman.

[liam67]

Post by Usenet Nutter

Post by Jonbhoy
Just reading up on the BBC site about what WS has been saying about the club
and how the Bank is running the club etc and that he may leave in January
but is waiting until a new owner arrives to see what happens.I thought
though when DM left that a new guy had come in,wasnt that a new owner or was
that purely a club chairman without ownership?

Wasn't Murray both Chairman and Owner but now he is just the Owner as
that other guy became Chairman.

It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

[Jonathan Bryce]

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them. So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

[liam67]

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though. Even with his business instincts he couldn't
have predicted this global financial crisis.

Wasn't the threat of bank involvement made when Celtic were on the
brink before McCann arrived? tbh I'm glad those bad old days are
behind the Celts PLC...

[Jim Mason]

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Post by liam67

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though.

Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.

[liam67]

Post by Jim Mason

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Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though.

Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.

Maybe there will be lots of revisionism since Murray is no longer his
brother's keeper, or what ever kinda jargon they use...

[bizenya]

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Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them. So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce
but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though.

Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.

Maybe there will be lots of revisionism since Murray is no longer his
brother's keeper, or what ever kinda jargon they use...

Who are `they` who use said jargon?

[liam67]

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Post by Jim Mason

Post by liam67

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them. So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce
but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though.

Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.

Maybe there will be lots of revisionism since Murray is no longer his
brother's keeper, or what ever kinda jargon they use...
Who are `they` who use said jargon?

Not sure, but there are hunners of them...

[liam67]

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Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though.

Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.

Maybe there will be lots of revisionism since Murray is no longer his
brother's keeper, or what ever kinda jargon they use...

[Jonbhoy]

Post by liam67

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them. So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though. Even with his business instincts he couldn't
have predicted this global financial crisis.

Yeah it just seemed a bit confusing because i guess i saw in most places
that the guy coming in was DM's replacement so i took that as meaning owner
as well and not just Chairman so was a bit surprised when all this financial
talk started but as has been said i guess he is only there as chairman.

Post by liam67
Wasn't the threat of bank involvement made when Celtic were on the
brink before McCann arrived? tbh I'm glad those bad old days are
behind the Celts PLC...

Believe it was.Was a horrible day that and to be honest being pretty young
back then i can remember thinking it was not really that bad until the very
last day when everyone was in the car park worried.I didnt realise how close
we actually got to going tits up.Thats why although people slate the guy i
am still grateful he stepped in.Yes it was more a business decision rather
than a supporter stepping in but i dont think we had any other options at
that time from memory.

[liam67]

Post by Jonbhoy

Post by liam67

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though. Even with his business instincts he couldn't
have predicted this global financial crisis.

Yeah it just seemed a bit confusing because i guess i saw in most places
that the guy coming in was DM's replacement so i took that as meaning owner
as well and not just Chairman so was a bit surprised when all this financial
talk started but as has been said i guess he is only there as chairman.

Post by liam67
Wasn't the threat of bank involvement made when Celtic were on the
brink before McCann arrived? tbh I'm glad those bad old days are
behind the Celts PLC...

Believe it was.Was a horrible day that and to be honest being pretty young
back then i can remember thinking it was not really that bad until the very
last day when everyone was in the car park worried.I didnt realise how close
we actually got to going tits up.Thats why although people slate the guy i
am still grateful he stepped in.Yes it was more a business decision rather
than a supporter stepping in but i dont think we had any other options at
that time from memory.

Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...

I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

[Jonathan Bryce]

Post by liam67
Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

Well I was.

Post by liam67
tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
most likely be Hibs.

I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
like Celtic did.

[liam67]

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

Well I was.

Post by liam67
tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
most likely be Hibs.
I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
like Celtic did.

They were talking about the fans taking over in the newspaper this
morning. David Edgar was cock-a-hoop about the prospect. Oh,
dear...you can imagine sensible gers are hiding behind the couch at
the prospect of that. Rightly so if the Rangers fans were running the
club, for example the Rangers Supporters Trust. Singing the Billy Boys
would be obligatory, rather than just an option, as against Hibs the
other week...

[bizenya]

Post by liam67

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

Well I was.

Post by liam67
tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
most likely be Hibs.
I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
like Celtic did.

They were talking about the fans taking over in the newspaper this
morning. David Edgar was cock-a-hoop about the prospect. Oh,
dear...you can imagine sensible gers are hiding behind the couch at
the prospect of that. Rightly so if the Rangers fans were running the
club, for example the Rangers Supporters Trust. Singing the Billy Boys
would be obligatory, rather than just an option, as against Hibs the
other week...

The tune being sung at games is a tune that is perfectly reasonably included on
official club cds - Don't try and tar our away fans with the brush that blemishes
your own away fans reputation.

And the "Greatest fans in the world bar the away support and a minority who support
terrorist organisations and Regicide, but we support them because they are an
oppressed people and we feel part of that oppression because my great great grampa
was Irish alledgedly" award goes to...

[liam67]

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Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

Well I was.

Post by liam67
tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
most likely be Hibs.
I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
like Celtic did.

They were talking about the fans taking over in the newspaper this
morning. David Edgar was cock-a-hoop about the prospect. Oh,
dear...you can imagine sensible gers are hiding behind the couch at
the prospect of that. Rightly so if the Rangers fans were running the
club, for example the Rangers Supporters Trust. Singing the Billy Boys
would be obligatory, rather than just an option, as against Hibs the
other week...

The tune being sung at games is a tune that is perfectly reasonably included on
official club cds - Don't try and tar our away fans with the brush that blemishes
your own away fans reputation.

I thought you were playing Hibs at Ibrox....you're out of touch
already mate...;)

Post by bizenya
And the "Greatest fans in the world bar the away support and a minority who support
terrorist organisations and Regicide, but we support them because they are an
oppressed people and we feel part of that oppression because my great great grampa
was Irish alledgedly" award goes to...

I actually quite like the queen...princes edward and philip are abit
weird mind you...

[Jonathan Bryce]

Post by liam67
Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

Well I was.

Post by liam67
tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
most likely be Hibs.

I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
like Celtic did.

[liam67]

Post by Jonbhoy

Post by liam67

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though. Even with his business instincts he couldn't
have predicted this global financial crisis.

Yeah it just seemed a bit confusing because i guess i saw in most places
that the guy coming in was DM's replacement so i took that as meaning owner
as well and not just Chairman so was a bit surprised when all this financial
talk started but as has been said i guess he is only there as chairman.

Post by liam67
Wasn't the threat of bank involvement made when Celtic were on the
brink before McCann arrived? tbh I'm glad those bad old days are
behind the Celts PLC...

Believe it was.Was a horrible day that and to be honest being pretty young
back then i can remember thinking it was not really that bad until the very
last day when everyone was in the car park worried.I didnt realise how close
we actually got to going tits up.Thats why although people slate the guy i
am still grateful he stepped in.Yes it was more a business decision rather
than a supporter stepping in but i dont think we had any other options at
that time from memory.

Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...

I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

[liam67]

Post by Jonathan Bryce

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
Murray's fault though. Even with his business instincts he couldn't
have predicted this global financial crisis.

Wasn't the threat of bank involvement made when Celtic were on the
brink before McCann arrived? tbh I'm glad those bad old days are
behind the Celts PLC...

[Jonathan Bryce]

Post by liam67
It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
Walter Smith came out and said they were.

I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
for them. So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.

[Tommy]

Post by Jonbhoy
Just reading up on the BBC site about what WS has been saying about the club
and how the Bank is running the club etc and that he may leave in January
but is waiting until a new owner arrives to see what happens.I thought
though when DM left that a new guy had come in,wasnt that a new owner or was
that purely a club chairman without ownership?

Obviously the bank are saying to Walter:
HERE FANNY BAWS SIT THER AND SHUT THE FUCK UP NOO.

Maybe now we will see some of the talent from Murray park.